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The "Get Laid" Advert and "The Numbers."  

Mollena

12/10/2009 11:35 am

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12/15/2009 9:54 am

Yep.

It sucks.

Believe me; I was more surprised than ANY of you were when it showed up, because the ad didn't fly on A F F which IS geared for hookups.

I've taken it to Management. The move was to shift the verbiage to "Get Your Fetish Serviced."

I explained why a "fetish" can't be "serviced" and clarified that this still missed the point: that it is not integral to the basic RACK / SSC tenants of BDSM to advocate casual fucking and promises that casual fucking is to be obtained here.

I thought "OK, this ad is so blatant...people won't respond."

And you know what? The numbers are in: people are signing up for it. The percentages are kind of amazing.

It is hard for me to argue with numbers.

I mean, people complain, sure. People threaten to leave.

For years.

Some of the most vocal detractors are the same people who stick around anyway, complaining but remaining. That doesn’t impress upon the Money People here that this type of campaign doesn’t "work."

ALTfolk talk about not renewing memberships, rail against the unreliable balky system, and cluck their tongues knowingly that "people are leaving."

Well, they aren’t.

I WISH I had hard numbers to say "Look, you don’t take care of the customer, they won't stick around." but people DO stick around.

It is interesting, to me, how many people complain about how shitty things are / have been / continue to be.

And I'm one of the Old Schoolers; I have, cumulatively, 12 years on ALT. I, too, have seen the wonkiness. But the illusion of the good old days is just that.

Some shit ain't gonna change. I have to suck that up.

Some stuff, Well, I do what I can.

Like explaining that, despite the fact that some people are answering this ad by putting up their Money...enough to spike enrollments...that the cumulative effect is NOT positive.
Well. I’m doing what I can. And, for that, the thanks I get is accusations of rigging the whole thing, being a tool of the man, a puppet for the "In clique” and a power-mad porn whore.

FYI, I only did that one scene in that one porn, so I don’t think that counts

Anyway, yeah.

Sorry for my first post in ages to be non-personal, but it kind of is.

I’ll keep you posted if there is any movement on this campaign.

Mollena
_MaxFaust_
1965 posts 

12/10/2009 12:41 pm

You have turned 40, you old hag! My congratulations!
(Not as something you aspired to, but as something you endured.)


Mollena replies on 12/11/2009 9:55 am:
I'm officially in "Cougar" territory now, so that;s a bonus
darksparkles
1064 posts 

12/10/2009 3:29 pm

It is great that the enrollment numbers are being spiked by this most recent ad campaign.

What is not so great is the implication that everyone is here to get laid.

I already get nasty, whiney mail saying I should not be a member here because I am not available, not here for a hookup, or to get laid. That my profile is deceptive because it states I am "looking for" whatever- [The only choices ALT offers me to tick off to have an account.]

In the past I had suggested that the option- I am looking for- "friendship of like minded members" or something similar be added to the list of choices to tick off.

Now with this new advert I suggest there be the option of using a visible icon that notates "I am not here to get laid, so do not bother wasting your points, time, or effort, on me.

This new pop up is defamation of my character. It infers that I am here to get laid. I did not desire to upgrade my account in order to upgrade my sex life.

ALT offers no option to tick off stating otherwise.

So, yes, my profile is deceptive. I have no other choice if I want to have a membership here.

At least give members an option to tick off, an icon to notate, stating otherwise if that be the case...

I thank you for your effort, for being our voice of reason.








Mollena replies on 12/11/2009 9:50 am:
Thanks for your response. I do have a project in the works to try to expand on the categories, genders and profile choices here. It isn't a priority, because I have no way to prove it would make money immediately But if / when it does happen, we will have a way for folks to represent themselves more accurately in their profiles.

Sincerely,

~Mollena
foulmama
25305 posts

12/10/2009 4:07 pm

I'm sorry you end up taking such heat over this kind of stuff.

I think it is because before MO.... alt personnel were nameless, faceless entities.... and now... well we have you.

For newcomers and not so newcomers.
Arm yourself with knowledge


Mollena replies on 12/11/2009 9:45 am:
Thank you, Lady. I really appreciate that. I know that there ARE people who really do just want ALT to work properly, do what it is meant to do and be a fun place ot meet people, in spite of the liars, trolls, scammers and naysayers, I still hope for the best!

((hugs))

~Mo
maggielee
15288 posts 

12/10/2009 6:50 pm

thanks for a great post, mo, and for all you do to help keep this community's meeting place running more smoothly. it's sad that anyone would give you grief and i hope you know how many appreciate all your efforts. fwiw, the "view all" buttons and so many other links are not working any more. do you know why and/or how long it will be before they fix it? thanks, again!


Mollena replies on 12/11/2009 9:43 am:
They aren't working because each and every time new code is pushed, other stuff breaks. The folks in Ops try their best to keep up with it, but the system isn't very limber.

Imagine Scotty yelling at Kirk "She canna take any more, Cap'n!" and yo get the picture.

But this is a system-wide problem, and I know there are bug reports open for this.

Thanks for your kind words...it means a lot to me these days.

~Mo
Dreamer214
53427 posts 

12/10/2009 7:21 pm

Time to mix the cyanide and koolaid...

2ndTimeHere
3296 posts 

12/11/2009 6:21 am

sure people stay,but do they renew their paid membership or just down shift to standard memberships. I see fewer gold and silver balls among the old timers these days.

The grow or die theory of business as applied here leads to dilution of the qualities that attracted many to the site to begin with. People become disillusioned,and stop paying. This in turn gives rise to the need for an influx of new members. Further diluting the alternative character of the site. Eventually this place will become as mainstream as facebook,and the most alternative members will be an elderly,straight acting,republican gay couple in an ltr who only have sex every other Friday night,but do attend church three days a week.

...and they'll be standard members!

hey not for nothin',but the people who talk the most smack about you are often the problem,and never a solution to the BS around here...just sayin'.


Mollena replies on 12/11/2009 9:38 am:
You really have NO IDEA how true that is.

The "behind the scenes" is ugly ugly ugly.

I wish there was a better way to track, with hard numbers, the phenomena as you outline it. Sadly, long-term attrition and loss of trust aren't' as trackable as a few thousand dollars in a few days.

Thanks for reading.

Peace

~Mo
AlwaysInLeather
2025 posts

12/12/2009 6:07 pm

If you would seriously like to improve the functionality of the site, I am glad to help. There are several things that can be done which will improve the relevance of the searches and interactions.

While people may stick around, that does not always have to be the case. Many are here just because other alternatives have not taken hold... and while Alt may be the biggest around learn from the Vanilla world and there was a company that had a stranglehold on the Video Rental market. There name was Blockbuster, and they treated their customers like crap because they were the biggest, they put the smaller mom and pops out of business, but then came along Netflix. Blockbuster may still be around, but they have had their balls handed to them.

I contemplated posting them, but then again I have also contemplated selling them to either you or one of your competitors. What I do know both from my own experience as well as marketers like Brian Tracy and Jay Abraham, information that is given for free is never used or valued as much as information paid for.

I am serious in my offer


Mollena replies on 12/15/2009 9:54 am:
Our contact information is below in the link entitled "Help / Contact" so feel free to write into the appropriate department with your resume / CV and suggestions.
fpnmf
252 posts 

12/13/2009 6:21 am

I am no longer a paying member. I am not a whining non-paying member.
I think the site should convert to paying members only.

I saw this on an AL post I am banned from. (LTB3)

>>>>>Even this demeaning outrage has inspired but 9 comment on Mollena's blog,inclueding my own.

Cant see his comment here.

Then I saw this on the same post;
>>>We need to form our own site, control creative content.
We also need to write on every consumer complaints and advocacy
forums just how the zombie accounts at FriendFinder networks
are committing credit card fraud on a daily basis and then
hide offshore to circumvent prosecution.

Any truth to this? Doesnt this cross the line of libel?

Have a great day.


Mollena replies on 12/15/2009 9:51 am:
Howdy!

Truth be told, I can't comment on inner legal workings.

I CAN say that, back before the Penthouse acquisition, there were several high profile lawsuits in which FriendFinder was involved.

There is a whole lot of scrutiny involved in an acquisition as well.

I can say that I would be VERY surprised if anything as shady as that escaped the microscope under which the parent company finds itself with reference to client-based fuckery.

As far as other sites go, people ARE doing what this individual is talking about. FetLife is an excellent site, privately owned and operated, and growing quickly. I'm not just on FetLife, I am a paying "Lifetime Member" because I believe in what John Baku is doing.

In terms of building community, it is head and shoulders above any other site currently running. And those who want a more intimate setting for their kink life on-line often prefer Bondage (dot) c0m for their "home."

There ARE other options out there, but ALT is still a viable place to network and meet folks. Problems aside, it CAN work. That is why I strive to do what I can to retain what there is of the integrity

Thanks for the feedback!

~Mo
Islero5000
1985 posts 

12/15/2009 2:01 am

You're invaluable, Mo. And I hope this job brings you rewards that are more than just financial.


Mollena replies on 12/15/2009 9:53 am:
You may just have made my entire month.

Thank you.
pluckedpeach
4976 posts

12/20/2009 8:56 pm

Ah Mo, don't let this latest round of hooey get ya down! Just the monkeys trying to make money and on some level all of us are aware that this is the reason they are here.

I don't like the new slant but as I'm a paying member, I don't have to look at it daily either.

But there is some small case to be made that this is a sex site whether or not folks want that to be so...most just don't wanna hear it. I mean really how many came here hoping the learn more about perfecting their knitting with the pearl stitch...or to learn more investment strategies...seriously?

Yeah, I get it for many here there is a whole lot more to it and I'm one of them...but even I know we've gotta take the bad with the good.

Good Luck with the Monkeys!

babypeach

fellahere
12384 posts 

12/24/2009 9:17 am



I noticed today that your old post bit of this, bit of that... has acquired the text corruption issue that keeps popping up. Thought I'd mention it to you.

I have no thoughts on "get laid". Marketing...

Member retention is the #1 neglected issue, to me. Thank heaven the blogs are alive because the female profiles are a depressing fucking graveyard to browse. Good thing I only write to bloggers.

The site has to have actual women want to be here, (as someone wrote).

The randomness of the message system and it's accumulation of undocumented rules makes leaving this site easy.





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