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Plzrmeister 67M  
10144 posts
4/16/2014 7:26 am

"G, what do you think?"

What, I'm a woman now? I thought I was standing when I pissed this morning ... Something change?

"No, but you must have some perspective."

Based on the responses I've seen from women, I can only hypothesize on My gut hunches.

"Hypothesize? Quit using big words - You always lose Me!"

I can only make an educated guess. Is that better?

"Now I'm in the conversation."

I'll use the ole nature/nurture discussion. Then I'll toss out the 'nature' portion. Far be it for Me to contend this has anything to do with a woman's hard wiring. I'll leave that to geneticists.

"Geneticists? Fuck, use lay-men's terms! I'm lost again."

Those who deal with DNA. They figure out if people 'are born that way'. Predisposed to act in a certain manner.

" Pre-dis-posed. I 'think' I'm following."

Abandoning 'nature', I'll examine My take on nurture. Boys and girls are brought up differently, obviously. How adults interact with them and, more importantly, how they interact with one another is different. Groups of boys and groups of girls interact differently and have different interests. Using a very broad paint brush and using generalities, I think boys are mainly influenced by men and their fathers, while girls are mainly influenced by women and their mothers. These men and fathers, as well as the women and mothers had the same influences when they were growing up. Things are perpetuated through time.

"Per-pet-u-at-ed?

Let's say they grew on one another. Given their influences, boys and girls will naturally act differently towards one another. Girl & boy, girl & girl and boy & boy. I think boys/men are more 'direct' .... There's only one way to get from point A to point B. Hard headed to a certain extent and are natural born 'fixers'. I think girls/women have many more ways to get from point A to point B. Anthropologically speaking, they are the weaker sex, so they are forced to use more manipulation and smarts than brute force in many situations. Girls learn these trades early in life ... Even as a baby to get the desired attention. They also own a pussy and know men need that pussy and can be manipulated to get it.

"All hail the pussy!"

Indeed. The social interactions between girls/women is more mental than between boys and men. We grunt, scratch, fart, give each other shit, and figure out where we're going to get a beer and who has a nice ass and/or tits. Simple pleasures. Women are more mental, judgmental and manipulative within their own grouping. I think they might be the epitome of 'passive aggressive behavior.

"That's going to win you a lot of women friends on here .... What the fuck are you trying to do? Get us killed?"

I told you I had a broad paint brush and was dealing in generalities. Women know other women and their 'tendencies' and they know men and their 'tendencies'. If a man knows something about a woman, it is mostly, "OK, that's fine - who gives a fuck. Got any beer?" If a woman knows something about another woman, it's a function of time before she'll use it against her and women know this. THAT gets in the way of trust.

"Then 'Hell hath no fury......'

Exactly. All of you who have gone to a class reunion ... Think of this. Do you men go into a time warp and turn 16 or 17 again? Don't you go right back to the 'boyish' thoughts and activities with your buddies as you did in high school? Giving each other shit is the order of the day, as is 'I'd still love to fuck her!' or 'she's still a fox!'

"That is exactly what happens to Me!"

Me too. What do the women do? Determine who has gained the most weight, who has aged the most, who thought she was hot shit in high school and lives in a trailer park, who got a boob job, who's been divorced the most. Judge, judge and more judge. Whispers, snide remarks and false faces.

"Alienating more women I see."

Just My 'take'. Can you see why I think women trust men easier and faster than they do another woman?

"They know we want in their pants and will behave and keep their secrets to get there?"

Well, there is always that. PLUS, we don't really give a shit about nebulous crap. We're less apt to judge, manipulate and retaliate. Scratch, burp, fart, grab another beer and 'What down is it?'. We pay attention to what's important!

"So all women are like that?"

Of course not. But women understand the general tendencies of other women and therein lays the conundrum of trusting them. They know they better watch their backs.

"And that there's power in owning a pussy."

They ALL know that!

Make Women Female Again


Doc_Sonar 66M
24589 posts
4/16/2014 6:10 pm

yourGrace!


Outstanding!
My eyes locked on this straightaway:

"I don't know nor speak for all women. However, this woman, me... "

and I appreciate your feelings/experiences in this as well:

"However, this woman, me Finds I trust men sooner than other women.

Women of my past; mother, aunts, teachers and friends were and sadly to some degree remain, emotionally detached and shaming. As a result I found myself lacking in a meaningful connection with the key women in my life.

Men of my past; father, brothers, teachers, friends the exact opposite. Compassionate, nurturing, affectionate and encouraging.

Fast forward 20 something years...Not much has changed...[except] Within the D/s community, real time not on-line. The women I had opportunity to share time with were loving, nurturing. Submissive and Dominant.
"


I think it's fascinating and telling how our experiences shape our opinions and beliefs on questions like these, grace, traditional thought bedamned...

Thank you for wanting to join in here, and with such heart, yeah?

YTB
BD~
P
xos

Doc_Sonar

I advocate Simplicity, Patience & Compassion...to the extent that doing so won't threaten or harm My boundaries or Me. ~ Doc_Sonar


Breathe Deeply~
Peace


Doc_Sonar 66M
24589 posts
4/16/2014 6:50 pm

    Quoting Plzrmeister:
    "G, what do you think?"

    What, I'm a woman now? I thought I was standing when I pissed this morning ... Something change?

    "No, but you must have some perspective."

    Based on the responses I've seen from women, I can only hypothesize on My gut hunches.

    "Hypothesize? Quit using big words - You always lose Me!"

    I can only make an educated guess. Is that better?

    "Now I'm in the conversation."

    I'll use the ole nature/nurture discussion. Then I'll toss out the 'nature' portion. Far be it for Me to contend this has anything to do with a woman's hard wiring. I'll leave that to geneticists.

    "Geneticists? Fuck, use lay-men's terms! I'm lost again."

    Those who deal with DNA. They figure out if people 'are born that way'. Predisposed to act in a certain manner.

    " Pre-dis-posed. I 'think' I'm following."

    Abandoning 'nature', I'll examine My take on nurture. Boys and girls are brought up differently, obviously. How adults interact with them and, more importantly, how they interact with one another is different. Groups of boys and groups of girls interact differently and have different interests. Using a very broad paint brush and using generalities, I think boys are mainly influenced by men and their fathers, while girls are mainly influenced by women and their mothers. These men and fathers, as well as the women and mothers had the same influences when they were growing up. Things are perpetuated through time.

    "Per-pet-u-at-ed?

    Let's say they grew on one another. Given their influences, boys and girls will naturally act differently towards one another. Girl & boy, girl & girl and boy & boy. I think boys/men are more 'direct' .... There's only one way to get from point A to point B. Hard headed to a certain extent and are natural born 'fixers'. I think girls/women have many more ways to get from point A to point B. Anthropologically speaking, they are the weaker sex, so they are forced to use more manipulation and smarts than brute force in many situations. Girls learn these trades early in life ... Even as a baby to get the desired attention. They also own a pussy and know men need that pussy and can be manipulated to get it.

    "All hail the pussy!"

    Indeed. The social interactions between girls/women is more mental than between boys and men. We grunt, scratch, fart, give each other shit, and figure out where we're going to get a beer and who has a nice ass and/or tits. Simple pleasures. Women are more mental, judgmental and manipulative within their own grouping. I think they might be the epitome of 'passive aggressive behavior.

    "That's going to win you a lot of women friends on here .... What the fuck are you trying to do? Get us killed?"

    I told you I had a broad paint brush and was dealing in generalities. Women know other women and their 'tendencies' and they know men and their 'tendencies'. If a man knows something about a woman, it is mostly, "OK, that's fine - who gives a fuck. Got any beer?" If a woman knows something about another woman, it's a function of time before she'll use it against her and women know this. THAT gets in the way of trust.

    "Then 'Hell hath no fury......'

    Exactly. All of you who have gone to a class reunion ... Think of this. Do you men go into a time warp and turn 16 or 17 again? Don't you go right back to the 'boyish' thoughts and activities with your buddies as you did in high school? Giving each other shit is the order of the day, as is 'I'd still love to fuck her!' or 'she's still a fox!'

    "That is exactly what happens to Me!"

    Me too. What do the women do? Determine who has gained the most weight, who has aged the most, who thought she was hot shit in high school and lives in a trailer park, who got a boob job, who's been divorced the most. Judge, judge and more judge. Whispers, snide remarks and false faces.

    "Alienating more women I see."

    Just My 'take'. Can you see why I think women trust men easier and faster than they do another woman?

    "They know we want in their pants and will behave and keep their secrets to get there?"

    Well, there is always that. PLUS, we don't really give a shit about nebulous crap. We're less apt to judge, manipulate and retaliate. Scratch, burp, fart, grab another beer and 'What down is it?'. We pay attention to what's important!

    "So all women are like that?"

    Of course not. But women understand the general tendencies of other women and therein lays the conundrum of trusting them. They know they better watch their backs.

    "And that there's power in owning a pussy."

    They ALL know that!
*Grinnin'* at this G...

BD~
P

Doc_Sonar

I advocate Simplicity, Patience & Compassion...to the extent that doing so won't threaten or harm My boundaries or Me. ~ Doc_Sonar


Breathe Deeply~
Peace


SylviaSoulier 58F
8209 posts
4/17/2014 5:42 am

Now this has me wondering whether submissive women in general trust men more than women ...

Good to read your views Grace.



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