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AlphaLthr 76F
1098 posts
5/13/2016 8:48 am

Silent, suppressed tendencies???... Loves and respects him???...
Just my opinion, but it doesn't even make sense... Perhaps they aren't in a committed relationship...

A B/s relationship is "all giving" for both regardless of the scenario...
If they're serious about each other, a healthy, mature, verbal communication may be lacking...

Being honest with each other should be paramount from the onset from any relationship... Get it all out on the table... Saves unnecessary issues down the line for many...
Again, just my opinion...

IT ONLY TAKES A DROP OF INK TO OFFER FODDER FOR ONE TO THINK................Jo


twosharp2 79M
767 posts
5/13/2016 10:09 am

I think it's fun for a submissive to be willful (playful). Although I had methods of punishment, not once did I need to use it on my soul mate. Of course we play punished a great deal—spankings, flogging, force, etc.—but it was always in play environment.


msfunfor 63M
10618 posts
5/13/2016 10:10 am

a friend ,,,aye ?
..lol....
well I think you are describing a "bedroom" sub who's dom has
not totally caught on

most likely it depends on his patience !

be good
M

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msfunfor 63M
10618 posts
5/14/2016 7:22 am

    Quoting  :


you don't qualify ?
,,,lol,,,,
no don't view the door but instead view the responses for
their respective age and loneliness.......

I am glad yous here

be good
M

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Doc_Sonar 66M
24589 posts
5/14/2016 9:37 am

    Quoting  :

I wonder if this was a comment to your post in general, or if it was in response to a particular comment(s)...
Worth knowing.
xoz

Doc_Sonar

I advocate Simplicity, Patience & Compassion...to the extent that doing so won't threaten or harm My boundaries or Me. ~ Doc_Sonar


Breathe Deeply~
Peace


Doc_Sonar 66M
24589 posts
5/14/2016 9:53 am

"She is submissive to her other but has a tendency to do what she wants, not loudly, but quietly. She loves and respects him very much and isn't trying to provoke him.

How do you view something like this?"
+++

I view it - people doing what they want to do, unless it harms my boundaries or me - just fine.

And this read ambiguously to me:
"She is submissive to her other but has a tendency to do what she wants, not loudly, but quietly. She loves and respects him very much and isn't trying to provoke him."

Though it's not necessary, please clarify, so I can confirm what I think you saying.

After all, it's not what we say or do, it's what others THINK we say or do that they react to (see many of the above comments...) no exceptions exist.

And Vlad was being purposefully provocative, I think. *Shrugging*

BDSM is as Eye see it - ALL of it - is one degree of roleplaying to another. Suppose I said that Anything a sub/slave does is at essence because she wants to. Any alternative seems abusive, or psychopathically criminal.

We know actual slavery in the past - and in the current world ~ boko haram and the sex slavery/wife for sale industries for examples....nothing to do with BDSM.

Your thoughts?
+++
Intriguing, this. I'll return.
TSLUDD
xoz

Doc_Sonar

I advocate Simplicity, Patience & Compassion...to the extent that doing so won't threaten or harm My boundaries or Me. ~ Doc_Sonar


Breathe Deeply~
Peace


Doc_Sonar 66M
24589 posts
5/14/2016 9:54 am

    Quoting  :

*smh*



Doc_Sonar

I advocate Simplicity, Patience & Compassion...to the extent that doing so won't threaten or harm My boundaries or Me. ~ Doc_Sonar


Breathe Deeply~
Peace


drmgirl622 68F  
25884 posts
5/14/2016 6:12 pm

I can be playful with my Dominant but when I hear that tone or see the look all that changes immediately.


DancingDom 74M
22476 posts
5/15/2016 10:07 am

There is a line...and each relationship establishes this line to cross or not to cross. Playful, spunky, willful.......................challenging A submissive should always challenge the dominant..specially in the beginning to know what is and is not acceptable and to see if he/she is consistent.
If she is being disobedient on purpose...well that is another story specially if it is recurrent. And, if she is trying to top from the bottom consistently...well it is my guess the relationship will not last if he is dominant.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


tinkerfun 46F
11150 posts
5/15/2016 12:57 pm

Hmmmm....

People seem quite opinionated. I would say whatever works for each couple. There is no rule book that everyone needs to follow.

I'm sure many people would think of me as topping from the bottom and I am certainly not a doormat. I would not submit at all if I wasn't allowed to have my own will. I would not be everyone's cup of tea and 99.9% dominants wouldn't be mine and I would never submit to them.


Doc_Sonar 66M
24589 posts
5/20/2016 9:31 am

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OK; that's a lot clearer, and confirmatory.
Thank you.

Sounds alright to me, this willfulness as you clarify it.
YT
xoz


Love the new profile photo as well.

Doc_Sonar

I advocate Simplicity, Patience & Compassion...to the extent that doing so won't threaten or harm My boundaries or Me. ~ Doc_Sonar


Breathe Deeply~
Peace


WoodEyeLuv 61M  
102 posts
5/21/2016 6:08 am

Support group? Willful just makes it easier to "justify" taking them over our knees for a spanking or thrashing. Am I missing something here? Wink. Wink.


quietroar 59F
9647 posts
5/25/2016 3:22 pm

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THANK YOU!


FriendlyPain007 69M  
70 posts
6/3/2016 4:34 pm

I think when a sub is sassy or do as she pleases it is a cry for attention or a need for more discipline - one of my female friends used to do "bad" things as a teenager just so her dad would use the belt more often on her!



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